Exactly. Aint gonna be one.

Blog article out of San Antonio(previously posted in another thread)with more on UTSA trying to snag a spot in either the joint MWC/C-USA or the SBC at http://blog.mysanantonio.com/utsa/2012/ ... heating-up

Couple of articles out of San Antonio(previously posted in another thread) regarding attempts by UTSA and other WAC schools to leave that league.Links at http://blog.mysanantonio.com/utsa/2012/ ... culation-2
and at http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/coll ... 478948.php

I think discussion of the demise of the WAC as a football conference is premature, because there are way too many schools with an interest in seeing it survive - specifically, just about every team west of the Mississippi River with aspirations of moving from FCS to FBS in the next 10 or 15 years. They should all be submitting their membership applications to the WAC about now, even if they will not be truly ready for FBS football by 2013, because move up is by invitation only, and one fewer FBS conference means the remaining 10 are almost full (especially after move ups in the East), so there may not be many invitations for western teams to move up for a very long time. They cannot afford to let the WAC collapse.

Even if the WAC is left with only Idaho, New Mexico State, and Texas State as football members, they should be able to add schools such as Montana, Montana State, North Dakota State (football only perhaps), Sam Houston State, and Lamar. Other candidates might include Sacramento State, Portland State, SF Austin, McNeese State, South Dakota State, Northern Iowa, and Missouri State.

Lamar is the only one that would consider moving to the current wac. I doubt they would now w/ the losses of USU, UTSA, La Tech, and probably Texas St., SJSU on the horizon. If La Tech and UTSA don't get into the Alliance then SBC will take them. If 1 goes to the Alliance then Texas St. will go to the SBC.

If they stay separate then you are looking at the CUSA going back to 12(UAB prez pointed that out today) FIU, UNT, La Tech, UTSA look like they'd get the nod. Maybe Charlotte over UTSA if MWC convinces them to join the MWC along w/ SJSU, USU. AFA or Fresno will be in the BE by 2015.

W/ Alliance
BE adds AFA(14/18)
Alliance adds UNT, FIU, USU, UTSA, SJSU(20/19)
SBC adds La Tech, Texas St., Charlotte, UTA(12/14) Benson said wants a 2nd bball school
WAC adds AFA, UVU, CSUB, UTPA (2/9)

No Alliance
BE adds AFA(14/18)
CUSA adds UNT, FIU, UTSA, La Tech(12)
MWC adds SJSU, USU, Texas St.(10/9)
SBC adds Charlotte, App St., Old Dominion, UTA(12/14)
WAC adds AFA, UVU, CSUB, UTPA (2/9)

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FSA, where are you hearing FSU to the BE? While the program has some national cache due to Pat Hill's scheduling ethos a decade ago, the school doesn't register at all in the Northeast markets. That's not to denigrate or say they will not be invited, but that notion would carry some disbelief on the East Coast.

AFA is no sure thing either. They've already turned down 1 invite and with the eventual elimination of the BCS autobid and an uncertain landing spot for Olys, I'm not sure the BE is all that attractive to them.

go to the csn and MWC boards. It's not a new development SDSU Prez was on radio hinting at a MWC school possibly Fresno( we have a decent market and actually own it). If Navy being in has changed AFA's(national brand on a lower level) mind, it's their spot. If AFA says no again because they can't find a good enough home for other sports, it's likely ours, and we join the Big West for other sports. All of the CUSA schools minus UTEP are in the full member footprint where they would feel obligated to give full membership to. Marinetto said wants another western partner to ease the travel on BSU and SDSU. Does this somehow scream UMass or ECU(there's a whole thread on why ECU is out)to you? The news you are telling me isn't new. It's called we are still the best of the rest in the west. SDSU doesn't register in the NE either. Hell college sports doesn't register in the NE unless The Giants, Jets, Pats, Celtics, Sox, Yanks, Mets, Knicks start playing college

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When you only play once a week and visit schools every other year, what does it matter about having travel partners? Marinatto's assertion of western travel partners is where hardheaded idiocy rules the day. For high-level football, read BCS, travel expenses are not an issue--not when you are making $XXm off of TV contracts alone. Can't handle traveling cross country, don't play with the big boys. If the concern is over students missing class time due to too many cross-country flights, then why did they join in the first place knowing there may never be another western team added? BS!
As far as Northeast fans and college ball, well I am one amongst many and before all this desperation, I really enjoyed the BE for all sports. I don't even have a problem w/ the addition of so many mediocre teams and football-onlies, I have a problem w/ the landslide of Pitt and Syracuse bolting for whatever reasons they like to justify. The BE conference shuffling is a joke, an absolute joke. A farce and mockery of college athletics that we have SDSU in both the BE and the BW. I have no problem w/ Fresno, come one come all, because at this point it doesn't matter. The BE may exist, but it's irrelevant. And as you guys have all forecasted on here, B-ball and its untenable structure is due to collapse. Sad really. Used to love the BE tournament in the 80s. Some great and exciting basketball and a highlight of the sports calendar. Hard to get excited about SMU vs. USF or Houston vs. Boise, just not the same.

Your rant doesn't change the fact that Marinetto wants another western fb only. Fresno and AFA aren't that far behind the new Big East. We play and have beat those big east teams, minus BSU who owns us. We beat Cincy and Rutgers the last few years. If all goes according to plan, AFA will be #14 in the West along w/ Navy in the west. Temple moves back to the East. Yes I also prefer that AFA, Fresno, BSU, SDSU all just stay in the MWC together, and wish that there was a rule that you can't be fb only. BE isn't "Big Boys" anymore, proof is in all the departures and having to add SDSU, BSU, Temple(who was removed as fb only a few years ago. It's the Big 5 conf. the little 1. 2 wish they were something, the 2 never gonna be anything, 1 DOA.

I forgot BE basketball back in the day was right up their w/ Pro sports in the BE. 16 team tourney kinda killed it in my mind.

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[quote="Fresno St. Alum]Your rant doesn't change the fact that Marinetto wants another western fb only. Fresno and AFA aren't that far behind the new Big East. We play and have beat those big east teams, minus BSU who owns us. We beat Cincy and Rutgers the last few years. If all goes according to plan, AFA will be #14 in the West along w/ Navy in the west. Temple moves back to the East. Yes I also prefer that AFA, Fresno, BSU, SDSU all just stay in the MWC together, and wish that there was a rule that you can't be fb only. BE isn't "Big Boys anymore, proof is in all the departures and having to add SDSU, BSU, Temple(who was removed as fb only a few years ago. It's the Big 5 conf. the little 1. 2 wish they were something, the 2 never gonna be anything, 1 DOA[/quote]


My dream MWC

New Mexico
UNLV
Colorado St
Wyoming
Air Force
Nevada
Fresno St.
TCU
San Diego St.
Hawaii
Boise St.
Northern Arizona

fixed.

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That is more a pipe dream than mine - Utah won't come back.

Plus, it violates one of my cardinal rules for dream conferences - 12 max

Neither will TCU but you had them, so I thought it was okay. I was going to put USC and Oregon in too

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Under my 12-team per conference rule, Missouri and aTm have to go back to the Big 12, Pitt and Syr back to Big East, etc.
With aTm back in the Big 12, the Big 12 doesn't need or want another Texas school, so TCU stays in the MWC. They still take WVU, and balance that with Pitt as a travel partner.

You missed my point entirely. Either that or you have knowledge that - other than Lamar - none of the FCS schools I mentioned will have any interest in moving up to FBS in the next 10-15 years. If so, please share, because I find that very hard to believe.