Fresno St. Alum wrote:
One of the things I've noticed is that the recent additions seem to have one thing in common and that is that they bring in bowl tie ins.
Memphis - Likely ensure tie in with Liberty Bowl
Boise - Humanitarian Bowl
SDSU - Poinsettia Bowl
Navy - Military Bowl
There have been efforts to start a Cure bowl at the campus of UCF. Houston and SMU will bring in at least one tie in to a Texas bowl game.
This obviously wouldn't be the deciding factor for a 14th member but it could give a school a leg up. Air Force is the clear cut number one especially since they probably bring in the Armed Forces Bowl. After that, the next best option isn't really clear. I know FSA says it's his Bulldogs, but I'm really not convinced either. I think it's probably between three schools: Fresno, UNLV, and Hawaii.
From there it's tough. Fresno is a smaller market but they definitely carry it. I believe Hawaii is a similar size and they also carry that market well. Las Vegas is certainly larger but people there don't really care about sports. UNLV pres says he won't be in two conferences but until that offer is actually on the table, I'm not sure I really believe he'd turn down more money. UNLV and Hawaii both bring bowl tie ins to the Big East, something they would need if they expand to 14. Hawaii has the obvious distance issue which would probably be the reason they don't get in, but it is football only.
Not that any of this matters. Once Boise has to go back to the MWC this thing is over anyway.
You should also start your post telling that guy you're a major hater of Fresno St., you even started a thread about your 1 win over us in the last 20 years on here. Which really has nothing to do w/ a realignment board.
Didn't the SDSU back to the MWC get shot down yesterday?( I wish you were right though, my mind rejects SDSU and BSU being BE members) BSU is only good at football, so as long as that's making money and the WAC has 7 other warm bodies, UVU, UTPA, CSUB and the leftovers, they'll stay, I think. Hawaii is another good option, it's just so damn far even from CA. It's not like they are part of Catalina Island. So you're saying we need to bring back the Raisin Bowl to get in? You better bring back the Fresno St. invitational (Silicon Valley Bowl)
. Still the UNLV Prez could have said, I'm not going to discuss the BE, we're moving forward w/ the Alliance/MWC. He didn't, he flat out said we won't split up sports and hurt bball. BW or WAC hurt bball. Vegas cares about sports, their football team is USC and UNLV is their basketball team. Since UNLV fb sucks, everyone hits the casinos during the games.
Temple, no bowl, got in.
Another thing is that w/ the fb only adds you want to get decent schools on the field. Most of the world sees the BE as CUSA 2.0 now. They are way behind the other 5 conf. now. UNM, UNLV bottom feeders, would drag the perception down further. AFA, Fresno, Hawaii, are the only decent fb schools out of the All sports footprint. SJSU only averaged 2,900 less fans a game than UNLV last year, so if it's all about market than SJSU#6>UNLV#40.
Man, that thread was a joke, you weren't really mad about that were you? I didn't hide the fact that it was the first time in 20 years we won in Fresno. It made no difference who won anyway. Not like a bowl game was on the line.
But there in lies the big issue. Will the WAC actually get 7 bodies? These are the only schools that would be possible since no one would leave a stable conference for the WAC at this point.
Idaho - Assume they stay FBS so they're stuck here
Louisiana Tech - Sun Belt or C-USA if they're lucky
Utah State - MWC
San Jose State -MWC
New Mexico State - Stuck
Texas State - Probably Sun Belt to replace loss of N. Texas
UTSA - C-USA, Sun Belt worst case
Boise State - Staying
Texas-Arlington - Announced they will leave if WAC loses another school, SB or Southland
Denver - Summit invite could come after A-10 expands
Seattle - Stuck here unless BYU moves to Big 12. Then maybe WCC invite
Chicago State - Far away but beggers can't be choosers. But could also get a Summit invite depending on A-10 trickle down
NJ Tech - American East invite likely coming after CAA response to A-10 raid
Texas Pan American - Would probably take WAC invite, but want Southland
Utah Valley State - Would take WAC invite
Cal State Bakersfield - Would they join a conference so spread out when they have so many schools they can schedule non conference out of the WCC and Big West? I doubt it.
New Orleans - Probably headed to the Southland which would give that conference 12 and easy divisional split.
So best case you have:
New Mexico State
Chicago State (Summit will take at least Chi St or Den the other in WAC)
Texas Pan American (SL will take NO or UTPA, the other in WAC)
Utah Valley State
Cal State Bakersfield
So that's 8 plus potentially Air Force. Worst case though Chicago State and UTPA get other invites, and CSUB turns the WAC down. And worse yet, if the MWC loses a member, that takes them to 8/9. Would they stay there or would they invite Idaho or NMSU to get to 9/10 again (with the real reason to kill the WAC and force everyone back to the MWC)? Personally, if I was the commissioner and the WAC got down to 8 schools, I would invite NMSU and Seattle just to nudge it off that cliff.