He'll just move it to the other sports non fbs board. W/ Asun, Summit

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Well, assuming the news is true the WAC is down to very few options as I suggested they would be. Looks like the options are now down to:

IN
Idaho
NMSU
Boise
Denver (may have Summit invite in the future)
Seattle (Could have WCC invite one day)

LIKELY
UTPA (Will probably accept invite)
UVU (Will probably accept invite)

POSSIBLE
Chicago St (May have other options)
NJ Tech (Likely headed to Atlantic East soon)
CSUB (Good chance they will turn down the WAC)
New Orleans (Likely top choice for Southland)
Grand Canyon (Has to upgrade first, no guarantee)

It's possible SDSU and the next school the football only school added to the Big East would join the WAC. That's 14 schools POSSIBLE.


Worth noting, depending on what the plan is for the MWC-USA alliance, the MWC may need a replacement for any school they lose. Which means it's possible even if AFA goes Big East/WAC, the MWC may need NMSU or Idaho as a replacement.

Long story short: probably survives, but barely.

The guy that follows CSUB on the WAC board thinks that they'd take the invite now since the WAC has become more western and they'd be in an AQ conf. for everything.

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Well then that probably means that Chicago State, NJIT, and New Orleans are definitely out (not that they should be in anyway). And UTPA might be an unacceptable option as well.

Best case:
Seattle/Fresno
Idaho/Boise
Denver/AFA
NMSU/UVU
CSUB/SDSU

Actually, all things considered, that's a pretty good looking conference. All they'd need is for Louisville to go to the Big 12, UCF shift to the East and the Big East add two western schools to create a legitimate Western division with AFA and FSU or UNLV. And even if they can't get Fresno/UNLV/SDSU pair CSUB with Seattle and it's still not a terrible 8 school conference.

He could be wrong about CSUB. Timing is also a problem, WAC needs members now. BE doesn't have to invite until June 2014.

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Even if the AFA / FSU (or others) to BE Football doesn't happen, the WAC should be able to cobble together 8 schools to form a conference, by adding a couple from the Great West.

UTPA would rather be in the SLC, NJIT might pass on the WAC, CSUB may find it easier to play Big West schools as an independent.
UVU would definitely accept an invitation, I think Chaicago State will, since nobody else wants them.

It'll be the Great West that disbands, not the WAC. F

I'm sure they will make their adds. I think SJSU was just trying to find a way where the WAC would look better and not have to add the GWC. NJIT will be in the AEC or NEC after CAA raids the AEC.

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I think the invites for UTPA and UVU and CSUB will be first. Yes UTPA wants to go to the Southland but they're at 11 and New Orleans probably has a leg up on them for spot 12.

As FSA said, NJ Tech is going to get in elsewhere so they're out. If CSUB comes on board it's probably with the expectation that UTPA is as far East as it gets which means Chicago State is probably out.

After they get to 8 they can sit tight and hope no one else leaves. They should work on that D-2 invite for Grand Canyon to get to 9. Then the best case for the WAC is that AFA is invited to the Big East along with Fresno or UNLV. Let's say it's Fresno. Those two and SDSU would then join the WAC giving it 12 members. But many would have reasons to leave/not come.

West
Boise
Idaho - Will need a football home at some point
Seattle - If BYU leaves WCC they probably get the 10th spot
CSUB - May not join if the WAC goes to far East
Fresno/UNLV - Big East may not add another Western member, plus why not go Big West
SDSU - Why leave stable Big West

East
Denver - Could try to jump ship soon before this even has a chance
Air Force - May not join Big East but just replace with FSU/UNLV
UTPA - Will want Southland invite
NMSU - Will need a football home at some point
Utah Valley
Grand Canyon - Would need to upgrade first

Personally, I would like the WAC to fold and have the MWC take the name. Lots of ifs here so I'll go ahead and leave it at that. But yes Tute, the Great West is certainly finished.

Article out of Idaho discussing dire WAC situation now that it appears that Idaho and NMSU will likely be the remaining WAC FB schools once the expansion announcements end in a few days.Look for more pressure on NMSU and Idaho AD's to address the future of their programs in the coming days.Link at http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/05/0 ... idaho.html

We have ALL been blind-sided that CUSA is going to 14, not 12. Could MWC be looking at 14, too ?

They could absorb Boise, SDSU, Idaho, and NMSU and completely clean out the WAC FB group.

Admittedly, this seems a bit unlikely, but maybe the MWC feared a bunch of law suits from Idaho and NMSU ???

I'm reminded to mention to you that Boise State and Idaho have an acidic relationship right now, as in BSU apparently refusing to play Idaho in football for the near future. A Moscow-based State Board of Education member votes against everything to do with Boise State. That kind of thing.

So leave it to a Boise State fan to suggest that Idaho could play with the poison pill. They kill the WAC by downgrading to the Big Sky. Boise's other sports end up in the muck. I think it was originally brought up to point out how spiteful BSU fans perceive the UI administration to be- and, really, I think UI has too much pride to actually drop. Still, it's a fascinating thought.

Blog article out of San Antonio(previously posted in another thread reporting that SBC has announced that Texas State will be joining that league.I anticipate more WAC defectors making announcements in the next few days.Link at http://blog.mysanantonio.com/the-local- ... invitation

Jon Wilner report(previously posted in another thread)that SBC "may"be interested in inviting NMSU.Link at http://twitter.com/#!/wilnerhotline/sta ... 0688747520

Article out of Shreveport(previously posted in another thread)reporting that La Tech is planning a C-USA Party/Presser for Noon CT this Friday which will probabaly also be held in conjunction with other schools "like" UTSA.Looks like the exodus from the WAC continues.Link at http://www.shreveporttimes.com/article/ ... nav%7Chead

Brett McMurphy blog article(previously posted in another thread with reminder that in addition to Texas State today,the WAC may also lose La Tech, UTSA,SJSU and USU to the MWC/C-USA on(So far no word on UT Arlington arrangements) Friday. Link at http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... y/18939680