Exactly.... as has been the case for at least the last 5 years or so....

The BCS seems to always blame "those darn computers" every time some 3-loss also-ran from a "power conference" gets picked over a better team from a "mid-major".

I would like to see this 4-team ["Don't call it a playofffor whatever reason"] group chosen by a selection committee, like the NCAA BB Tournament.
The basketball selection committee does a very good job, in my opinion, and they are ACCOUNTABLE.
It's been documented that in so many cases, the caoches in charge of the coach's poll couldn't be bothered, so they hand it to the Sports Information Director, who in many cases is too busy to watch games from other than his confernece.
So the "name" programs get a lot of undeserved votes in these polls.

Boston Globe article discussing Marinatto leaving and possibility of future Big East split at http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/f ... than_later

Food for thought...

We've discussed here last year, an idea of a Big East/MWC merge of sorts.

Much has happened since, including the best of the MWC gone.

But the question now is this:

If the Big East were to lose, say, Louisville and the Big East again looking into 1 or 2 MWC schools, should the Big East consider a split from the basketball schools for an all-sports conference?

For instance, the Big East is not the best of CUSA plus Rutgers, Temple and Uconn. Navy, Boise St. and SDSU for football.

But what if the Big East split from the basketball schools and instead looked to bring in these and other schools out west for an all-sports conference.

Shedding the Big East name for something more general, perhaps there is an ideal opportunity to have 2 divisions, all-sports, and a US wide TV contract.


Example:

American Athletic Conference:

East Division:
UMass
UConn
Rutgers
Temple
Cincinnati
Memphis
UCF
USF

West Division:
Houston
SMU
New Mexico
UNLV
BYU
Boise St.
SDSU
Air Force



You've got the northeast markets:
NY/NJ/PA/CT/MA: Rutgers, Uconn, Temple, UMass
Midwest: Cincinnati
Florida: UCF, USF
South: Memphis
Houston/Dallas: Houston, SMU
Southwest: UNLV, New Mexico
SoCal: SDSU
Mountain: Utah, Air Force, Boise St.



Key is getting a solid 4 for all-sports in the population rich region of the northeast with 4 schools. The Southern presence in Tampa, Orlando and Memphis. The Texas markets of Houston and Dallas next. Then the mountain push with media darling Boise St., with another near national program with BYU, with a service academy like Air Force. these help to bridge into growing markets of ABQ in New Mexico and Las Vegas with UNLV, with a CA presence via SDSU.


It's not a pure Big East/MWC merge like we had talked about, but both conferences have changed greatly.

But I still see MORE benefits here for an all-sports conference than just a FB only division.

But the problems remain: same as with CUSA/MWC merger. $$$

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You have UNM in and no Fresno. You're about to get your ear chewed off.

we're talking all sports in a coast to coast conference. ABQ is a fast growing market. Not a stretch to think adding ABQ and a school that represents the entire state over a CSU school that dominates the central valley when talking about something as pie in the sky as a MWC 2.0 & big east 3.0 merge.

But we're only a few schools away from the big east "west" being at 6 members which could grease the way for some sort if all sports conference. Just the timing of the commish change and all...it's food for thought.

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I definitely don't disagree. But just waiting for FSA to see that.

Remember when you had Montana in the MWC over Fresno UMass and all 12 of their fans get in? For market? Then you can't leave SJSU out, they have #6 market. This will never happen anyway. BYU was too good for the good MWC, they said no to the BE already and couldn't even agree w/ the B12. So until you guys wrap your head around BYU being Indy or B12 or nothing, you'll be wrong. They don't think like normal people. They kicked their starting center off the bball team during their best season ever b/c he got laid.

Quinn, quit being a hypocrite about Central Valley you said yourself if we counted Fresno St. real market they're top 10. Now ABQ is all bad ass Fresno is some small market, the central valley all of a sudden got tiny?

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Here's your dream conf if it really happened, which it won't. Louisville is in the B12, BYU must have went w/ them. Either way they're not here. TCU isn't in this and they're too good for them, MWC, BE, and B12(for now)

East
Rutgers
UConn
Cincinnati
USF
UCF
Temple
Memphis
Tulane
West
Boise St.
Air Force
SDSU
Fresno
UNLV
New Mexico
Houston
SMU

Depending what year we are in then they could go to 16 w/ Charlotte instead of Tulane(who was mentioned in both B12 and BE expansion if someone else were to leave). I think S.Miss would be the best eastern option for the last spot. They have good fb/bball, fans. Just small market thingy

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While not at all unexpected, for some reason I am very sadden by this latest Big East crisis.

Why does the Big East keep punishing itself by trying to keep two groups of schools together which have no business trying to remain in the same league?

What is wrong with the 10 member all sports league?

Louisville
Cincinnati
UConn
Rutgers
Temple
UCF
USF
Memphis
Houston
SMU

Basketball would be very good and not on the level of the ACC, however, football would not be that much far behind the ACC. In fact a Conf USA championship game actually cost Houston the opportunity of playing in BCS bowl last year.

McMurphy says "spread the blame." I love reading the Rutgers board to hear their thoughts on this. There is NO love there for "Meatball" or his apologists.

I don't believe the efforts were very good leading up to the formation of the Big East, and the selection process was downright atrocious in its execution, but the conference at least tried to form a football arm from a basketball-centered body. Though inevitable, you have to give the Big East credit for doing something others couldn't, even without "the big four" (ND, PSU, Army, and Navy). On the surface, it looked like they had a good thing last year with TCU. It's a shame they couldn't have landed Navy and closed the door, cutting off the animosity over the Villanova, Notre Dame, and UCF "issues."

I'm not sure I can answer what's wrong with a 10-member all sports league, but I have maybe a smidge of an idea about what's wrong with THIS 10-member league.

It fails The Church Of What's Happening Now. It doesn't have Boise State football, and beyond the lack of an AQ, the question of having a truly hot program is what eludes the rest of this bunch. Commissioners want to believe the "rising tide lifts all boats theory," never mind what it didn't do for the WAC.

That almost, kind of, causes me to go back to the number argument and pose that the more schools, the more chances my conference gets a 2nd and 3rd major superpower. Um, even I'm not sure of that one. After all, the circumstances by which the Big 12 has gone to 10 are worlds away from how the Big 10 goes to 12.

Report: Louisville wants out of the Big East and in Big 12 (shocker I know)
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... e-big-east

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So are they saying this knowing they're going to the B12 soon or is this a blind scream for help in hopes Dodds says okay.

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Desperation hail mary. UL isn't a top-of-list acquisition for either the B12 or ACC. Just one of the more likely ones.

CBS: Boise State is having doubts. So, in one year, you lose football juggernauts WVU, TCU, and historical powers Syracuse and Pitt, and now potentially Boise State? Oh man, just kill this thing already.

Louisville isn't a prime candidate for ACC #15 / #16 (those would be Notre Dame, UConn, Rutgers).

However they are CERTAINLY on the list for the Big XII.
When WVU was added for Big XII #10, the Big XII had to call off the Kentucky US Senate delegation, who were threatenting various legislative matters to get Louisville
moved out of the Big East, and into a moe viable conference (such as the Big XII). Some promises may have been made.
Louisville would form a nice "bridge" to WVU, they have outstanding basketball, and decent football, although they have slid backwarde a bit since Petrino left about 4-5 years ago.


I think Boise realizes they made a mistake with the BE situation.
I saw a $10 BE exit fee in one article, but believe they've already been feeling buyer's remorse and have held up on finalizing their moves, according to this article.
So to move back to MWC (or actually just negate their commitment to the Big East) they would be ouut $5 million.
They need to "save face" a bit, as that is no chump change (it would be for University of Texas, but not for Boise State)....
SDSU may be on the hook for the full $10 million, although the MWC could see fit to waive any MWC-related fees.
I maintain SDSU could keep Olympic sports in the Big West (greatly saving on travel), and be a FB-only member of the MWC,
which would balance out Hawaii and give MWC 2 FB only members.
Again, the exit fee is going to be a brutal pill to swallow.

Sometihng is going on internally with the BE, that forced Marinatto out (unfortunately AFTER he hatched this retarded nationwide football mess).
What could it be ?
BE is losing it's AQ (as the AQ for FBS football is being eliminated, this is not specifically Marinatto's doing)
BE is negotiating a TV deal, and the bids ae WAY lower than Marinatto was promising (since Pitt, Syracuse, WVU and TCU are out of the mx).
BSU and SDSU want out (partly due to the money not being there as promised), and are livid about having to deal with these substantial exit fees....
Basketball schools have finally realized they will be making trips to Texas et. al. and are SERIOUSLY contemplating a split.
Marinatto has given Navy an offical invitation, without securing Air Force or Army as a package deal with them.

Take your pick !!!