Fresno St. Alum wrote:
fighting muskie wrote:
Just out of curiosity, Quinn, who are those top DII schools that America East might be looking at? I'm a Midwesterner and am not really privy to the pecking order up in the Northeast.
He doesn't know he's just throwing out there to show how low they are, he relies on me for his D-II info. LIU-Post as of today is interested in either moving D-I or merging w/ LIU-Brooklyn and having them take Post's fb or stay D-II and play in the NE-10 for fb and stay in the ECC for all other sports. The only other school in the NE that was interested in D-I was LeMoyne, 5 years ago, they have since said it's not an option.
So all of those D-II schools are 1 that might merge w/ a D-I school or join the NEC.
I put the NEC first when talking about NJIT and a conf. If the AEC plans on snagging a NEC school it would need to be one w/o fb. If they land C.Conn St., it would mean CCSU fb only in the CAA. AEC is already down to 8, you never know what or who the CAA takes or if the Patriot takes another school from the AEC to go to 10. At what point does the NEC look better than the AEC, having fb already helps. The Big South and A-Sun were basically the same, schools even left the Big South for the A-Sun, Big South started fb, now they have become the better conf and they have taken back from the A-Sun and let the A-Sun take the D-II move ups. That's where I throw in the AEC. As long as the AEC is stronger than the NEC then NJIT will not get in. If it falls below the NEC where no one would move then it's very likely.
You put too much into the name AEC, the point is, is that after the dominoes fall there's a damn good chance NJIT ends up in an eastern conf. and doesn't join or have to stay too long in a all across america wac.
How likely was A&M to the SEC in your mind? you banned SJSU for a week for posting about it. I agreed w/ you that I thought politics wouldn't allow it. We were wrong. So think of me putting both eastern conf. names w/ NJIT as a way of me covering my bases.
Alrighty.
At no point did I claim anything about any D2 schools actively looking to get into the America East. But as we know, as we've seen quite recently, when a conference has an interest in a D2 school, it tends to get the ball rolling on an upgrade. With my knowledge of NJIT...being that the school is just miles from where I've spent the majority fo my life, that simply having a location in a region will not be any type of golden ticket to be in a position where they aren't just getting an invite from the NEC but from the AE, a conference that will be more difficult to get into.
As for the NEC, if there are provisions in the NEC membership guidelines that say that a school cannot be a member of one conference while participating in the NEC for football, and that being the reason for your comments about CCSU "needing" to join the CAA for football. Because the NEC football arrangement seems to have worked out quite well for non-NEC member Duquesne (A10) as well as departing school Albany (AE)...and even URI is still an option, pending any last minute return to the CAA.
You're right about the current status...as long as the AE has options from the NEC based on the pecking order, NJIT will likely be out in the cold. And yes, that could change...since the loss of BU will have an effect on the AE. But we're still talking larger state universities that make up a good portion of the AE, and that is an advantage.
The point of my post was simply to help determine
why in many posts you make mentions of NJIT and the AE without any NEC qualifiers, when it comes across as if you feel that in the AE pecking order, that you feel that NJIT is more likely to join than an NEC school. Sure, it could happen, but it does seem much more likely that multiple NEC schools would need to reject the AE before NJIT is contacted, as that has been the general consensus.
As for things that have nothing to do with this thread, any issues with SJSU had to do with the HOW not the WHAT. We have unofficial code of conduct here including things like trolling, personal attacks, unacceptable tones, etc. SJSU has been an ideal member here with his contributions and take on many realignment issues. Of the most significance, there have not been any complaints by other site users about SJSU, which is something we all should strive for here to make sure this is a tolerant, engaging and fun community for all us members.
You said they'd look at D-II schools, muskie asked which ones. So what do you mean you didn't?
Duquesne is an affiliate, CCSU isn't, they won't be allowed to have their cake and eat it too according to what I've read.
NJIT wouldn't be the smallest school in the AEC if that happened. Hartford would.
W/O NEC qualifiers? When I mention NJIT I always put both NEC and AEC. If you mean how come I don't mention NEC moving to AEC. I did when I said if CCSU gets fb only in the CAA. I've also brought up LIU-Brooklyn, on the fcs board I've talked about Delaware St.(MEAC) and Quinnipiac as options. The reason NJIT gets brought up is they are in a (Not a conf) conf of 4 teams. The others aren't in emergency mode.
How much have you read that NMSU should replace AFA if/when they go to the BE? How much have you seen Texas St. as the option(better I might add)? NMSU gets all the talk because they're in the bad spot while Texas St. is in the safe spot. I'm one of the few that throws Texas St. name first but I don't bitch about NMSU getting all the message board headlines for being a replacement, this is even after Craig Thompson told them to go ahead w/ plan b.
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