ACC Realignment & Expansion Thread

Fresno St. Alum · **Posted:** Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:17 pm

lash wrote:

Quinn wrote:

lash wrote:

sec03 wrote:

Why would any outstanding school sign such? Few prominent schools would want to shut-off options or make it more costly if they ever decided to leave as circumstances can change quickly and unforseen events do happen. They sign these exit fee deals with their peers in mind, moreso than for themselves since departures will impacts the rest and may weaken the current conference.
The idea the ACC is suppose to be a feeder conference for the B12 was delusional and got shut-down by the named schools themselves, coupled with B12 not officially asking them. The B1G and the SEC are closer and more desirable, and where any departing ACC schools would look first if the need fell upon them. .

Sec03, just curious why are you so concerned about the ACC? Most SEC fans I know could care less about what goes on within the ACC.

Because this is the ACC thread on a Conference Realignment forum.

Yea so what.

My question for Sec02 was for having so much love for the ACC and hate for the Big 12?

The Big 12 is the conference providing some support to the SEC and not the other way around in the ACC balking against the favored BCS plan of the SEC.

SEC fans usually hate each other in the SEC must less supporting a rival conference is all I pointing out here.

Just curious is all! Why an SEC fan is likely to support the ACC at this time.

Why am I concerned about MIAA, GMAC, PWC, ECC etc in D-II, Mid South, TSAC, SAC, RRAC etc in NAIA, SEC, BE, ACC, A-Sun, CAA, SLC, etc in D-I? Because it's one of my hobbies besides flag football, NFL, fastasy fb(Conf realignment is a distant 4th to the other 3). I'm guessing a lot of us here have conf. realignment as a hobby. I'm also guessing Tute and I like it more than everyone else here since we have a notebook/spreadsheet w/ all of the D-I, D-II, D-III, NAIA, NCCAA, USCAA, CIS conferences, schools, nicknames.

SJSUFan2010 · **Joined:** Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:52 pm **Posts:** 470

Fresno St. Alum wrote:

lash wrote:

Quinn wrote:

lash wrote:

sec03 wrote:

Why would any outstanding school sign such? Few prominent schools would want to shut-off options or make it more costly if they ever decided to leave as circumstances can change quickly and unforseen events do happen. They sign these exit fee deals with their peers in mind, moreso than for themselves since departures will impacts the rest and may weaken the current conference.
The idea the ACC is suppose to be a feeder conference for the B12 was delusional and got shut-down by the named schools themselves, coupled with B12 not officially asking them. The B1G and the SEC are closer and more desirable, and where any departing ACC schools would look first if the need fell upon them. .

Sec03, just curious why are you so concerned about the ACC? Most SEC fans I know could care less about what goes on within the ACC.

Because this is the ACC thread on a Conference Realignment forum.

Yea so what.

My question for Sec02 was for having so much love for the ACC and hate for the Big 12?

The Big 12 is the conference providing some support to the SEC and not the other way around in the ACC balking against the favored BCS plan of the SEC.

SEC fans usually hate each other in the SEC must less supporting a rival conference is all I pointing out here.

Just curious is all! Why an SEC fan is likely to support the ACC at this time.

Why am I concerned about MIAA, GMAC, PWC, ECC etc in D-II, Mid South, TSAC, SAC, RRAC etc in NAIA, SEC, BE, ACC, A-Sun, CAA, SLC, etc in D-I? Because it's one of my hobbies besides flag football, NFL, fastasy fb(Conf realignment is a distant 4th to the other 3). I'm guessing a lot of us here have conf. realignment as a hobby. I'm also guessing Tute and I like it more than everyone else here since we have a notebook/spreadsheet w/ all of the D-I, D-II, D-III, NAIA, NCCAA, USCAA, CIS conferences, schools, nicknames.

I only have D-I, D-II, and NAIA. But if you ever want to complete my spreadsheet let me know.

sec03 · **Joined:** Sat May 20, 2006 2:09 pm **Posts:** 1241

ACC unchanged, B12 holding @10 - if one is unhappy about that, write, call, Email the conferences & schools involved.
Pointing out the obvious does not assume love/hate.

The Bishin Cutter · **Joined:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:41 am **Posts:** 567

Posted on the ND thread, but reposted here because of the blurb on what ND would take, if offered, from the ACC.

fighting muskie · **Joined:** Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:47 am **Posts:** 414

I wonder if there are any scenarios out there that would prompt the ACC to voluntarily expand to 16 without Notre Dame. Do UConn, Rutgers, and South Florida really bring so little to the table that they get stuck in a B League for football?

tute79 · **Joined:** Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:25 pm **Posts:** 1510

Stop already. USF was ranked as high as #2 in 2005 season.
Rutgers was ranked as high as #5 during the Ray Rice era. Ok... Schiavo is gone to the NFL....

The ACC is in no position to throw stones with Duke and Wake Forest's stellar FB history.... But Brian Piccolo played for Wake !!!!

Having said that, ACC has no interest in UCF/USF with FSU and Miami in their conference.
UConn has their 2 awesome BB programs, but the men are getting slapped by the NCAA for abyssmal graduation rates, so their stock is down at the moment.
Rutgers would be at best 3rd choice after Notre Dame and UConn.

freaked4collegefb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:37 pm **Posts:** 7098

CBSSports blog article(previously posted in another thread)reporting that Orange Bowl and ACC have agreed to 12 year extention.Barring some kind of surprise it looks like ACC has locked itself into top 5 FB conference level.Link at http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... 014-season

The Bishin Cutter · **Joined:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:41 am **Posts:** 567

Until the Big XII proves otherwise, the ACC just proved why they are #4, and how they may keep FSU and the others for the next decade and change.

sec03 · **Joined:** Sat May 20, 2006 2:09 pm **Posts:** 1241

The ACC/OB arrangement may go for an at-large opponent if certain other bowls allow an escape clauses for lock-ins'. Whatever the case, pursing a deal arrangement with the BE would lower the ACC's image in the pecking order; unless the BE delivers a very highly ranked team most every year, and one that does its share in filling seats & gets adored for TV . There will always be at least one school not in the SEC/B1G/B12/Pac12/ACC conferences that will end up decently ranked; such as ND, BYU, BE Champ, or CUSA/MWC champ. Otherwise, taking a "runner up or #3 from elsewhere could compromise the OB prestige, comparatively. I expect they have something in mind to advance this far with an extended deal. So, who will be the missing partner(s)?

Fresno St. Alum · **Posted:** Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:55 pm

Say Clemson is the best ACC team and is ranked #6. In order they'd play #5, then ND(if ND is top 10 then they'd probably get in over #5 team), then BE champ.

So unless a BE team finishes #5 and ND isn't top 10 BE won't see the Orange Bowl. Even then, this could happen Say Boise St. is #5 and Florida is #6 they'd probably pick Florida.

freaked4collegefb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:37 pm **Posts:** 7098

CSNBBS MB thread(previously posted in another thread)discussing another unconfirmed ND/ACC meeting at http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=577176

freaked4collegefb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:37 pm **Posts:** 7098

Article out of Greenville discussing attempts by ACC to build ties with ND.Apparently latest idea is a "prime time kickoff FB game" at Charlotte involving ND.Unclear if this could lead to other possible ties like bowl games or non FB sports membership.Link at http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article ... nav%7Chead

sec03 · **Joined:** Sat May 20, 2006 2:09 pm **Posts:** 1241

The top conferences agreed to a playoff arrangement that could not please Notre Dame any more than it does. Now the ACC and others are posing new incentives to lure them? Swarbrick has to be confused; take the Black Sea Caviar or the Pheasant Under Glass, or both? Nice dieting.

The Bishin Cutter · **Joined:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:41 am **Posts:** 567

The ACC-ND meeting rumors were legit: ND talking to ACC about OB ties.

Swofford is walking on thin ice.

freaked4collegefb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:37 pm **Posts:** 7098

CSNBBS MB thread(previously posted in another thread)discussing ACC/ND meetings at http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=577278

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