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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:19 am 
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Dennis Dodd article discussing yesterdays BCS Presidents decisions regarding playoff revenue and access and impact on Army and BYU at http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... in-playoff


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:45 pm 
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Dennis Dodd blog article with comments from BYU AD who is not pleased with projected playoff revenue distribution model.Unclear if this will force BYU to consider joining a conference for FB in 2014.Link at http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... ution-plan


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:02 pm 
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I can't imagine BYU going anywhere but the Big East as a football-only member.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:18 am 
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JPSchmack wrote:
I can't imagine BYU going anywhere but the Big East as a football-only member.


I could still see the Big 12 being an option since the money would be there. Problem being the lack of quality western schools for #12 and that it pushes the footprint the wrong direction when the big guys are all looking south/north east.

Pac-12 seems like a stretch at this time due to the academic/religious aspect. But money is ultimately the top religion and if adding BYU could make money for the Pac-12, I think their stance could change in the future. Likely? No, but still has to be a possibility to consider.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:11 pm 
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JPSchmack wrote:
I can't imagine BYU going anywhere but the Big East as a football-only member.


I could still see the Big 12 being an option since the money would be there. Problem being the lack of quality western schools for #12 and that it pushes the footprint the wrong direction when the big guys are all looking south/north east.

Pac-12 seems like a stretch at this time due to the academic/religious aspect. But money is ultimately the top religion and if adding BYU could make money for the Pac-12, I think their stance could change in the future. Likely? No, but still has to be a possibility to consider.


I'd disagree about the money/religion part.

BYU (much like Army, Navy and Air Force) have a different set of ideals as the other college athletic departments. BYU-TV was the religious mission of their school president. He feels he's called by the Lord to spread the LDS message through BYU TV and have BYU athletics serve as an embassador for that.

The reports of BYU re-thinking independence stem not from TV revenue, but from BCS bowl access. BYU could be a BCS Bowl At-Large if they won 9 games and were in the top 14 of the BCS. Under the new formula, they have to be in the TOP FOUR.

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Is Sunday play really a big deal regarding BYU potentially going to the B12 or another major conference?

I decided to look at what's going on today (Feb. 17, 2013) for a top conference not involved in the BYU discussion. I used the SEC.

SEC teams are having 12 games today, all with out-of-conference opponents:

6 softball games
3 baseball games
1 men's tennis
2 women's tennis

*Note - a couple of these OOC opponents are religious-affiliated schools, Niagara (hosting a baseball game) and TCU (hosting a women's tennis game); of course neither are LDS.

So intercollegiate Sunday play is active, and this is still mid-winter, and the above games are generally spring sports.

BYU was in the MWC/WAC domain a long time, so there has to be a record in terms of how BYU's former conference perceived the issue and dealt with it in terms of problems posed. Where I see it could pose the biggest problem for a conference is if Sunday was an identified day for some form of tournament or playoff activity. And some of these decisions potentially would not be left to one given conference. If BYU was in a conference such as the B12, and BYU is to be one of the conference's representatives for a game scheduled on a Sunday, I can see where this could pose a problem.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:03 pm 
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Certain conferences can enjoy playing their marquee sports on Saturdays while others are expected to be a bit more liberal for their television deals. Where the complications usually come are with those non-revenue ollies, as you may get several programs traveling together to bundle and save on costs. With BYU, however, the "no Sunday" thing becomes a royal pain to accomodate. And it isn't *just* competition, but also them traveling they kvetch over, too. They don't want to budge from 12-12, just like Chick-fil-A on a Sunday...it ain't happening.

It's a challenge being a student athlete at a major university, as the travel usually means a lot of missed courses. For BYU, one day is off the schedule completely, and it's the other schools' students who pay the price for that. That's not a problem in a bus league. That's insanely untenable in the major Division I conferences.

The sport I think that the PAC will ALWAYS use against BYU and their demands is baseball. Those programs BLEED money, even though the west coast schools excel in them, and to add to the cost because a school doesn't feel it should be doing anything on a Sunday is just going to infuriate these schools who expect their kids to excel in school while juggling their education. It's a battle of priorities. But, you know, who wants to go up against God?


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Salt Lake Trib blog article discussing possible impact to BYU from any future NCAA Division changes at http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsbyusp ... e.html.csp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


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freaked4collegefb wrote:
Salt Lake Trib blog article discussing possible impact to BYU from any future NCAA Division changes at http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsbyusp ... e.html.csp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


BYU is going to be left out. If they go back to the MWC, that shall not help because the MWC will not be a part of it. This superdivision, if it does indeed happen, and it looks to have some momentum for it, will not be receptive to independents either. Of course, a way shall be found for Notre Dame to wiggle into it, with very accommodating criteria, since Notre Dame sits among the deciders.

I doubt if the Big12 will toss BYU a life-line for it either. The Big12 would be looking to have all their existing members included whether they hang together or divide-up once the super-conference division is enacted. The Big12 has no need to add anybody beforehand.

BYU will not compromise on some fundamentals to make them more plausible, and their bargainning chips are down to their fan base, name recognition, location, and prior successes. It may not be enough. BYU has to become an object of desirability, whereby their inclusion has a distinct, net favorabilty by at least one of the current power conferences.


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