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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:56 am 
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Dennis Dodd blog article(previously posted in another thread)discussing tv revenue for remaining BE schools without the 7 BB teams at http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... n-per-year


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Dennis Dodd blog article(previously posted in another thread)discussing tv revenue for remaining BE schools without the 7 BB teams at http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... n-per-year


So when there were 20 they were getting 60 mil or 3 mil each. When there are 13 they get 40 mil or about 3 mil each. You think they make this stuff up as they go?

"Boise and San Diego State both have their nonfootball sports parked in the Big West Conference. CBSSports.com reported Thursday that Boise will pay the Big East $1 million each of the next three seasons as sort of an “entry fee” ostensibly to defray travel costs. All of the current WCC schools are in California."

All I need to say about how bad this article was. I assume they're paying the Big WEST 1 million for the next three years.

If we assume Boise and SDSU get a 75% share of the revenue as football only members, that makes 12.5 shares splitting 40 million = 3.2 million per share. So a 75% share yields 2.4 million. Even if the Big East can add one more and get up to 45 million, the football only members would only see the money increase to 2.5 (or 2.55 if a football only is added) million.

And even if they get an 85% share they're only looking at 2.72-2.89 million. If you have to pay the Big West 1 million I fail to see how this is a good situation.


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freaked4collegefb wrote:
Dennis Dodd blog article(previously posted in another thread)discussing tv revenue for remaining BE schools without the 7 BB teams at http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... n-per-year


So when there were 20 they were getting 60 mil or 3 mil each. When there are 13 they get 40 mil or about 3 mil each. You think they make this stuff up as they go?

"Boise and San Diego State both have their nonfootball sports parked in the Big West Conference. CBSSports.com reported Thursday that Boise will pay the Big East $1 million each of the next three seasons as sort of an “entry fee” ostensibly to defray travel costs. All of the current WCC schools are in California."

All I need to say about how bad this article was. I assume they're paying the Big WEST 1 million for the next three years.

If we assume Boise and SDSU get a 75% share of the revenue as football only members, that makes 12.5 shares splitting 40 million = 3.2 million per share. So a 75% share yields 2.4 million. Even if the Big East can add one more and get up to 45 million, the football only members would only see the money increase to 2.5 (or 2.55 if a football only is added) million.

And even if they get an 85% share they're only looking at 2.72-2.89 million. If you have to pay the Big West 1 million I fail to see how this is a good situation.


Assuming the numbers are correct, you're dead on...it's a waste if they are getting a total of 1.4 when you can get similar in the MWC with less travel for all-other sports.

Key though is the hope that the TV contract is more since the markets are more appealing. But it does open ip the idea that if you had an all-sports conference with 8 western and 8 eastern schools in 2 geo divisions with LIMITED cross over games, it would almost have to be a better TV contract.

Problem is that in the perfect world, you'd get to pick and chose the schools. And that's the problem. The best revenue solution, if exit fees were minimal, would be to take SOME of the MWC and merge with SOME of the BE schools to create a 16 school conference.

Again, TV money has market penetration as the top factor with market being #2 (in the past, "market" was further down the list in favor of following, on field success, etc...but networks are paying a premium on live broadcast content ie college sports.

So unfortunately, I don't see that TV driven conference ever happening...too many moving parts with schools having to leave 2 conferences AND start something new.

So we won't likely ever see a N.A.C:
West: Boise St., SJSU, Nevada, UNLV, SDSU, New Mexico, BYU, Houston, SMU
East: UMass, UConn, Temple, Cincinnati, ECU, Memphis, Tulane, USF, UCF

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:41 am 
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Article out of Iowa City discussing new Hawkeye and Cyclone networks at http://www.press-citizen.com/article/20 ... ye-Network


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Article out of Shreveport with comments from SEC Commish regarding SEC tv deal situation at http://www.shreveporttimes.com/article/ ... TV-network


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Freaked, here's some info. to add. I did not see it elsewhere here, but also posted in SEC thread.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/ ... ble-teams/


Edit:SEC,thanks for posting the FB only individual school ranking by Forbes.Too bad they listed ESPN/Big 10 deal at $10 million per year instead of at about $100 million.No wonder they rank Ohio State so low.I always wonder about these rankings using "secret proprietary formulas".How many other mistakes are embedded into their data?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:38 am 
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Freaked, here's some info. to add. I did not see it elsewhere here, but also posted in SEC thread.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/ ... ble-teams/


Edit:SEC,thanks for posting the FB only individual school ranking by Forbes.Too bad they listed ESPN/Big 10 deal at $10 million per year instead of at about $100 million.No wonder they rank Ohio State so low.I always wonder about these rankings using "secret proprietary formulas".How many other mistakes are embedded into their data?

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Indeed, Freaked. I also noticed certain error, even with replies in the comments section. The writer needs to proof and double-check figures (typos & beyond) and interpretations, including the Internet version.
Since the article is based off institutional self-reporting to the USDE, that's a source for error in itself. It's always good to take certain statistics with a grain of salt, and make judgments on the level of clean objectivity presented.


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Dennis Dodd blog article(previously posted in another thread) reporting that MWC had reached agreement with CBS to resell some unused game inventory in order to increase tv revenue for that league.Link at http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... l-with-cbs


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:11 am 
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Pete Thamel piece also discussing MWC tv deal situation at http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/colleg ... xid=cnnbin


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Article out of Boise discussing restructured MWC tv deal and BSU attempt to obtain home game tv rights at http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/12/2 ... r-bsu.html


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SB nation blog article discussing conference tv deals at http://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal ... t-tv-money


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ESPN/Longhorn Network has reached a deal with Charter Communications

http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-relea ... agreement/

While the channel is still not on any of the Big 3 (TWC, Dish, Direct) nor Comcast, the LHN has now made its way onto nearly every other service provider including Charter, Cox, AT&T, Verizon, Grande, Cablevision, Google Fiber, and many small distributors in Houston/Gulf Coast, DFW/North Texas, Central Texas (Austin, San Antonio, Waco), and East Texas (Lufkin, Tyler, Longview, Texarkana).

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ESPN article reporting that Fox is scheduled to meet with Catholic 7 representatives this Wednesday to discuss an estimated $500 million over 12 year offer.Link at http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... basketball


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ESPN article discussing yesterday's Catholic 7/Fox meeting at http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... rs-sources


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SBJ article reporting that IMG and Ole Miss has reached agreement on new Media rights deal at http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jour ... -Miss.aspx

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