I likewise followed the Pac 16 proposal very closely and there is a lot of difference in the potential of ACC schools leaving and the Big 12 block of proposed schools that never left for the Pac 16 proposal.
First of all Texas never wanted to leave the Big 12 and was being dragged by the other schools fearing being left out such as Colorado. U of Texas and its network had direct conflicts with the Pac 12 which was pushing for a Big Ten type network.
Texas A&M never wanted in the Pac 16 as well and eventually ended up SEC. Without Texas A&M, there would have only been one other Texas school in the Pac 16 and Texas did not need or want the Pac 16 money.
The ACC schools are not being ask to leave as a group. There are multiple options for various ACC schools to jump to a better paying and arguably more stable power league.
I see Miami and Clemson having the same fear as Colorado and not wanting to be left in less desirable league and may jump sooner than later.
14 is just not a good number and is very unwieldy. It never worked for the Big East which caused all kinds of scheduling conflicts. Ironically the Big East worked better with 16 schools for scheduling purposes.
I do believe we are heading to four super conference with pods which allow for two semi final and one final conference games advancing into the new four team playoff.
Maybe it would be easier to not think of the ACC going away and just four super conference deciding which schools they want to include in their membership.
Much difference situation confronting the ACC that was confronting the Big 12 with Pac 16 proposal.
You may want to acquire a taste for crow just in case.
Haha will do. It's just, these Miami, Clemson, FSU to the Big 12 rumors have gone on since May. The exit fee increase came after that. If Clemson and Miami really were interested and really were talking with the Big 12 it makes no sense whatsoever for them to vote in favor of an increase. The logic isn't there. Even if you're 85% sure you won't have to pay the exit fee why the risk?
I also would like to point out I had A&M moving to the SEC when no one but Seanbo agreed. And I said the SEC would go to 14 when I was told the money wasn't there. I got banned for saying such "radical" things just a couple months before it went down.
Food for thought, if this really is all about a conference championship and the ACC really was under siege of the Big 12, you know they'd vote along side the Big 12 to allow championships with just 10 teams. You'd probably even get the smaller conferences to go for it too. So that's what? 7-3?
Good point on ACC possibly supporting the Big 12 with the push for the NCAA to change the rule and allow 10 member conferences to play a football championship game.
No one should ever get banned from posting opinions unless they are bluntly attacking someone. Which board were you referring too?
I personally wish conferences or power conferences were not allowed to raid each other when in the five power leagues. There are so many schools that want to move up and this could be a method to separate the bigger programs from the others.
The only way to stop the raiding would have been for the top conferences to hire a commissioner (i.e. NFL) and of course each conference commissioner believe they are a “God” (i.e. Slive and Deleany).
I have so many issues with the ACC for raiding the Big East and taking Miami. Why could the ACC have not looked at taking UCF or USF?
The ACC is the primary reason the Big East is in ruins. Of course the Big East did not help matters by retaining the hybrid for so many years.
I believe the ACC is to blame for being under constant threat of losing members because the conference basically started this crap. Before the ACC first raid on the Big East, the SEC expanded with one independent and rescued Arkansas from the failing SWC and was not really a raid. Ditto for the Big Ten with expansion with Penn State because the Big East stupidly did not see the forest for the trees. Since basketball leagues were not all sports such as the Atlantic 10, they deserve to be raided by a league that provided all sports.
The ACC on the other hand tried to destroy the Big East and it could eventually come back to haunt the ACC with the same results.
With the Big 12 GORs signed over for 13 years and constant fear of the Big Ten taking more members, I could see Miami and Clemson jumping ship when the opportunity strikes to land in a more secure environment.
After all, Miami has a history of following the money trail and less face the Big 12 has far more opportunities to generate revenue in the next decade.
If the SEC is only going to make a projected 1.5 million per school on a network, the ACC is not going to save itself by creating a network as well.
Final point, when the ACC Presidents came out with a unified stated without sighing GOR, the writing was on the wall and the ACC is in trouble and will continue to be so. This to me is the primary reason I continue to watch the ACC because schools will jump at the chance, otherwise, those schools would have signed over GOR which is about as much of air tight commitment as you can get.
Oh one more final point, Notre Dame is never going to save anyone school or conference, so forget Notre Dame ever coming to the rescue of the ACC. This I would eat crow as well if Notre Dame ever stepped up and helped someone other than itself. I hate crow so very confident in this prediction because money is the driving force.