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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:18 pm 
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AAC if continues to grow with CUSA(old sun belt) will be a conference that will not exceed the MWC.The AAC next new member will football only Navy.That will make 12 schools.Army would be another football only school.UMASS clearly wants into the AAC.Northern schools in AAC are Temple,Uconn,UCinn and Navy.The north/eastern group needs to strengthen.The AAC does need to a third rate southern conference(SEC and ACC)


If the ACC loses more members the Northern schools are the only possible ACC additions that are likely.

UConn - Major quality bball school, just missed the cut last time.
Cincy - Would be next in line, similar to Lville but less successful
Temple - Not at the top of the list, but has Philly and good bball in the heart of ACC footprint
Navy - If they are determinded to hit 16 w/o NDfb Navy fb would be a great offset, also bring the state of Maryland back intot he fold.

Also if somehow they can work it out (maybe after a PAC16-18-20 raids)
WVU - highest quality school in the Eastern time zone not in the Big Ten, SEC or ACC

Other possible longshots:
USF/UCF - if and only if they lose both FSU & MIA
ECU - if and ONLY if they lose UNC, NCSU & Duke

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:06 pm 
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There was some rumor/drug-induced gibberish that Temple is/was trying to set up meetings with the ACC. Not necessarily talks about being immediately invited, but discussions pertaining to what a school like them would have to do for consideration. Obvious jokes aside, after what happened at Villanova, I kind of believe Temple would do this.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:56 pm 
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ctx48c wrote:
AAC if continues to grow with CUSA(old sun belt) will be a conference that will not exceed the MWC.The AAC next new member will football only Navy.That will make 12 schools.Army would be another football only school.UMASS clearly wants into the AAC.Northern schools in AAC are Temple,Uconn,UCinn and Navy.The north/eastern group needs to strengthen.The AAC does need to a third rate southern conference(SEC and ACC)


If the ACC loses more members the Northern schools are the only possible ACC additions that are likely.

UConn - Major quality bball school, just missed the cut last time.
Cincy - Would be next in line, similar to Lville but less successful
Temple - Not at the top of the list, but has Philly and good bball in the heart of ACC footprint
Navy - If they are determinded to hit 16 w/o NDfb Navy fb would be a great offset, also bring the state of Maryland back intot he fold.

Also if somehow they can work it out (maybe after a PAC16-18-20 raids)
WVU - highest quality school in the Eastern time zone not in the Big Ten, SEC or ACC

Other possible longshots:
USF/UCF - if and only if they lose both FSU & MIA
ECU - if and ONLY if they lose UNC, NCSU & Duke


If something truly cataclysmic happened to the ACC (like losing 4 schools) I think UConn, Cincinnati, USF, and UCF would be the schools they would tap to replace them. UConn for its basketball, Cincy to help out Louisville and the pair of Florida schools because who doesn't like Florida recruiting trips and Orlando and Tampa are growing markets.

I don't think Temple makes the cut but they do offer a sliver of a large tv market and have traditionally had respectable hoops. Something that will impact who gets selected will be who leaves and in what order the programs exit. Like you said, the U-Fs don't get considered until FSU leaves.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:31 pm 
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fighting muskie wrote:

Yes UConn feels incredibly slighted right now and they should be, but that has little bearing on UMass's future or the overall direction that the AAC will take as a conference.


When this proposed super-division may happen, a lot more shall feel even more slighted.

UConn is obvious, still a bridesmaid in waiting.
Cincy feels they have what it takes to move up, demonstrating some success for it.
Houston feels they deserve the B12. SMU too.
BYU went independent after Utah got a PAC12 invite.
WVU is thankful they got into the B12, but landed outside their territory.
Boise thinks they proved to deserve better as they head back to the MWC.
SDSU believes the PAC12 or B12 should take them.
USF and UCF think they should be up there with FSU, Miami and UF.
The list goes on...........

The AAC and MWC may be in a bit of competition with each other to position themselves just on the edge, but slightly below, the Power Five. They'll be the two that are hit if any of the power conferences make additions outside of each other and maybe BYU.
They may have a new "feeder" role here.

What may end up happening with UMass and Army fb remains unclear. Am certain the AAC already looked at UMass and determined, at least, "not yet".


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:32 pm 
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fighting muskie wrote:
If something truly cataclysmic happened to the ACC (like losing 4 schools) I think UConn, Cincinnati, USF, and UCF would be the schools they would tap to replace them. UConn for its basketball, Cincy to help out Louisville and the pair of Florida schools because who doesn't like Florida recruiting trips and Orlando and Tampa are growing markets.

I don't think Temple makes the cut but they do offer a sliver of a large tv market and have traditionally had respectable hoops. Something that will impact who gets selected will be who leaves and in what order the programs exit. Like you said, the U-Fs don't get considered until FSU leaves.

I'm not sure UCF gets called unless both FSU/MIA leave, USF might squeeze in if just FSU leaves.

Temple, strategically, geographically helps fill that huge hole between BC and the rest of the conference to the South (VA, NC, the fb schools) and the West (Syracuse, Pitt, Lville, ND).

Plus Temple like Navy would quell some of the loss of losing Maryland in that area, and like you said its a huge market that the ACC is not officially represented in.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:06 am 
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This might be Temple's last stand, athletically. They're set to make some investments in athletics, but they need assurances it will lead to something. It's a shame they fell so far back in Philadelphia that Villanova was so "close" to getting their football, and really, their entire athletic department, that much further ahead of the big university in Philly.


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Temple has hit the glass ceiling. They are not headed to the P5.


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Temple has hit the glass ceiling. They are not headed to the P5.


I agree. The time between Casale and the last couple of years pretty much sealed their fate. Villanova was awful to them, but they should have stepped it up on the football field YEARS ago.


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Near all of these AAC schools shall be striving for attention from the upper 5 conferences. It may not be a conference that feels real secure about themselves, as some shall be focused on "pick me, pick me!!" if any of the major conferences even hint at further expansion.

Here's what some ECU advocates are conveying on the dream side:

http://theeastcarolinian.com/?p=28423


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OH MY GOD !!!!!
Talk about delusional !!!!
The SEC desperately needs a CUSA school coming off a 3-9 football season ?

It's a bit frightening that this blogger is apparently serious.

How about - "Penn State is a bit isolated in the Big Ten East. No doubt Slippery Rock State College is under SERIOUS CONSIDERATION by the Big Ten expansion committee !!!"


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:57 pm 
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I can't think of any other place ECU can aspire that will keep them at the top line of college athletics like some of their intrastate colleagues. It used to be the Big East, but some of the basketball schools, WVU, and then Louisville put a stop to them there (until they were gone). No way the ACC touches them.

I think this crazy-talk was born out of the SEC's supposed strong desire to tap into NC and VA. With schools like UNC and NCST likely out of the picture for a bit, what could ECU do to distinguish itself?

(Answer: nothing. That is...until another major conference is born.)


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It is just a fact that some schools are top tier and some are not. ECU will never be a top tier school. North Carolina already has 4 if you include Wake Forest. Eastern Michigan will never be on the same plane as Michigan or Michigan State. That is why I would like to see a division I split. The big boys can compete for their championship and the rest can compete in their own division. The Southern Mississippis of the world can still play LSU or Arkansas for a few revenue games per year. They will also compete for a national championship against schools like Marshall or Temple or Ohio.


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When ECU moved out of the Southern Conference, as did William & Mary years back, different aspirations happened.

ECU, then, had dreams of the ACC. While ECU has made strides as a University and certain dimensions of athletics, it is still a directionally-named school in a state with 4 ACC schools, and Appalachain State moving to the SB.

Agree, ECU's options are limited as is Southern Miss. who have good arguments of their own, but even the AAC did not take them.

The MWC has some of these types whereby the PAC12 or the B12 may never come calling.

A lot of 'could haves and should haves' about Temple. If they were really good (fb) and really cared much earlier, they may have been able to have escaped, rather than focused to just get back where they were.

Tulane, who was once in the SEC; one wonders if had they tried to 'hang in there' a few more years, what kind of situation they would be in today? The financial struggles and tough competition got to them back then. Their athletic financial problems continued after they left.

Marshall? No impressive market and not an academic standout to garner attention from the upper crust.

As much as some of these schools try to move upwards in the pecking order; and some have tried really hard with varying and limited success; names, locations, finances, history, and political influences, do matter in holding most of them back.


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When ECU moved out of the Southern Conference, as did William & Mary years back, different aspirations happened.

ECU, then, had dreams of the ACC. While ECU has made strides as a University and certain dimensions of athletics, it is still a directionally-named school in a state with 4 ACC schools, and Appalachain State moving to the SB.


Unfortunately, East Carolina never had gotten attention to the ACC, and joined the CAA (except football, which went Independent) at the time before joining C-USA in 2001 as a full all-sports member after its football program joined there first a few years prior to that. So I doubt that ECU. would join the SEC. They'll stay well in The American as of next season.

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