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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:29 pm 
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So yesterday ESPN head John Skipper "resigned due to substance-abuse issues".
GOOD RIDDANCE !
Could this really have been about "performance" ?
Wouldn't be surprised to see allegations of more sexual harrassment / antagonism in Bristol.
It's a concentration of a lot of ex-jocks, some of whom may have never adopted a culture of being gentlemen (not a blanket assertion, but you can bet there is quite a bit of it). This was going to blow back on Skipper. He's the fall guy, before it gets back to the Mouse and Bob Iger.

Skipper behaves like a far-left leaning latter-day hippie who was killing the Mouse.
He WAY over-paid for various sports properties (far in excess of what Fox and others were bidding)
for NFL, NBA ($24 billion over 12 years !) and CFP.

Then tried to force on-air personalities to become social justice warriors, annoying the hell out of a lot of viewers.
Some folks may eat that up. I am admittedly one of many who belong to the "Shut up and play" mind-set.

Then kept raising ESPN subscription fees, chasing away ESPN's subscriber base.

He has been hurting Disney's bottom line. Unfortunately, many contracts are long-term, so damage will take a while to reverse.
ESPN buying Fox regional sports may be somewhat anti-competitive, but maybe now there will be an effort to hold the line on TV contracts for events.
With cord-cutting rampant, look for some cost-containment going forward.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:10 am 
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Jon Wilner blog article discussing PAC 12 FB situation following poor league bowl showing at https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/12/31/ ... verything/


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:05 pm 
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Why the panic ? So much of this is cyclical.

PAC owns state of California, which (with Florida and Texas) is most fertile football recruiting ground.

1-8 in bowls looks bad.
But consider...
Several other power conferences didn't have enough bowl-eligible schools to fulfill their contractual agreements.
PAC got 9 of 12 teams into bowl games. That equates to more money.

PAC is in a state of flux with football. wait 2-3 years.
Lots of new coaches - some will likely be very successful.

In terms of conference network and TV revenue, PAC has a different model.
I would suggest to try to shift to the Big Ten / SEC model, or maybe look at what ACC will be doing...
But the Disney/ABC/ESPN purchase of Fox regionals may be anti-competitive in terms of bidding for the PAC's TV rights...

PAC merger with Big XII ? 24-team conference ? If Big XII could pawn WVU off on ACC, then do something like this:
PAC West PAC East

Wash Colorado
Wash State Colorado State*
Oregon Boise State*
Oregon State Iowa State
Utah Kansas
BYU* Kansas State

Cal Oklahoma
Stanford Oklahoma State
USC Texas
UCLA Texas Tech
Arizona TCU
Arizona State Baylor

maybe this could lead to more stability and better NATIONAL TV deal for all....


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:15 pm 
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Location: Portland! (and about time!)
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I like to think the genesis of this article was a USC booster talking to a blogger over a couple tall drinks. The way USC is known to push around the Pac-12, I have to ask the followup...

Why yak about a merger of the 12s when USC and Texas can pick and choose a conference to their liking?

Lose Washington State and Oregon State and Utah and maybe Arizona State. If Washington wants to cite state law that Washington State has to be with Washington, don't invite Washington. Maybe they think Oregon's a paper tiger.

Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas State, WVU, TCU or Texas Tech, no thanks.

How many is that? 14, give or take a couple? Might be too much. USC and Texas possess the capability to be rather savage.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:58 am 
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Oregon blog article with opinion piece regarding possible future of the PAC 12 at http://fishduck.com/2018/01/oregon-and- ... ndon-ship/


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:34 pm 
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Oregon blog article with opinion piece regarding possible future of the PAC 12 at http://fishduck.com/2018/01/oregon-and- ... ndon-ship/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This type of reporting support the fact that came out of the Big 12 meetings last year with the TV consultancy firms of the need for future power football leagues. Will the same format of power football leagues be necessary in the future for major football?

Conference networks including the more successful SECN and BTN are based primary on growth with cable subscription fees. We all know the issue with ESPN losing cable subscribers in huge numbers. Factor in the merger of Disney and FOX and will the Big Ten be able to command the next type of payouts with the conference renews half of its tier 1 contract in six years. Big Ten reports are always bragging about the huge payouts partly due to the doubling tier 1 money having both FOX and ESPN making bids. Will this continue for the Big Ten and the Big 12 and Pac 12 as well when those contracts are due in the next six years not having both FOX and ESPN competing for football inventory?

This is where the pay as you go comes into place and bigger more brand names could possibly make more money as independents in football or partial independents (i.e. Notre Dame agreement with the ACC). Would a couple tier 2 football games generate as much money as the PAC 12 networks payout if the games were Texas/USC? In the past most of these type of games went to the tier 1 and tier 2 contracts and the body bag tier 2 football games went to the conference networks.

There will always be a need for conference affiliations for basketball and Olympic type sports for scheduling purposes. Football maybe not such much for the major power leagues. If a conference such-as the Big 12 without a network to tie up tier 3 moneys could provide and LHN type of deal for schools such as USC would that make more money compared to the current type of alignment. Will find out in the next five or six years when the Pac 12 becomes the first league to negotiate its tier 1 contacts with a merged Disney/FOX.

All of these factors were some of the major reason the networks did not want the Big 12 to expand and possibly hold spots open for future schools that may make more money being a Texas/LHN or Notre Dame/NBC type of power football school.

It is highly possible that a USC school would want to make a move to good power league for basketball and make more money in football as partial or fully independent.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:16 pm 
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Jon Wilner blog article with update on PAC 12/Sirius deal at https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/12/ ... t-details/


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:31 pm 
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Jon Wilner blog article discussing "possibility" that PAC 12 will eventually expand conference BB schedule to 20 games at https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/30/ ... ore-sense/


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AA blog article(previously posted in another thread)with comments from PAC 12 Commish regarding PAC 12 Network distribution situation at http://awfulannouncing.com/league-netwo ... rectv.html


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:28 pm 
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Jon Wilner blog article discussing PAC 12 Network situation at https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/03/12/ ... -far-away/


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:56 am 
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The PAC-12 TV $$$ is less than the other 4 P5 conferences largely due to 2 factors.

1) The 12 schools tend to play LATE at night (per agreement with TV partners).
The TV partners forced this on them, since they already have TV inventory earlier on Saturday late afternoon / evening.
Consequently PAC-12 games don't fetch as large of an audience nationwide.

2) The structure of the PAC-12's attempt at a conference network is busted up into regional networks. They want a big deal with Direct TV.
AT&T / Direct TV isn't willing to pay huge $$$ for the carriage rights.


It is noteworthy that current contract expires just about a bit before Big XII GoR expires.

This could all come together into a big "nexxus".
The PAC-12 COULD go to Fox / ESPN and inquire about a new deal for TV rights / PAC-12(16?) network deal based on adding certain Texahoma schools, which would join the PAC as soon as BigXII GoR expires....
Just a possibility.
The timing lines up.
With the Big XII GoR expiring in 2024, those schools will want to firm up their future plans with discussions probably occurring around 2022-2023...

The LHN contract between Texas and ESPN continues until 2030, but that can all be part of negotiations.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:21 pm 
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Dennis Dodd article discussing PAC 12 situation at https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... onference/


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:11 am 
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Jon Wilner article also discussing PAC 12 situation at https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/03/16/ ... -scandals/


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:58 am 
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Dennis Dodd had ONE important comment in his article.... "These things go in cycles".

PAC-12 FB is down right now.
So when you get numerous job openings, offering a P5 coaching slot and one of the 3 biggest recruiting grounds, suddenly that may attract some decent up-and-coming talent.

The fortunes of top basketball teams can fluctuate wildly when you have the top players leave after only one season.

Much was made of all the upsets in this years Men's NCAA bracket.
We had a similar year in the early 1980s, which led to expanding the field from 48 to 64.
Back when there were 48 teams, the top 16 had a BYE the first Thursday / Friday.
Teams 17-48 played each other, with 16 winners (4 per region) advancing to the weekend.
One year an inordinate number of Top 16 teams (top 4 per region) were upset during the 2nd round, so the Sweet 16 consisted of a lot of 5-12 seeds.
The Top 16 coaches reasoned that they had spent too long sitting around, while the winners of the first round had just faced some tough competition.
Soon afterward the tourney was expanded to 64, with the first round BYES eliminated.
The hysteria died down....


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:26 am 
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Jon Wilner two part blog article(previously posted in another thread) with comments from PAC 12 Networks President regarding PAC 12 Networks situation.
Links at https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/03/20/ ... one-deals/
and at
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/03/23/ ... ion-plans/


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